동지나해가 Blue Sea 였고 COREA SEA 였다. http://blog.daum.net/han0114/17048856
태극기와 대륙조선 상징 http://blog.daum.net/han0114/17049823
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flag 과 태극(Tegu)
朝鮮通信使来朝図(조선통신사래조도)
"Dragon flag" of Qing
용 깃발을 사용한 나라가 청(Qing)이란 사실이 맞을까?
이 말은 사실이 아닐 가능성이 더 크다.
한마디로 여기저기 자료가 다 달라 뒤죽박죽이다.
청(Qing)이 중국(china)이라 한 것도 근세기 들어 생긴 것이라고 보이고 약세를 보이고 점차 힘을 잃은 대륙조선을 말살하기 위한 음모가 횡행 할 때 일제와 일제 유학파 국민당 소속 역사조작세력들에 의하여 대륙조선 대신 청을 앞세워 그렇게 몰아갔던 것일 뿐이다.
1.Eight divinatory signs ensign (팔괘 복희문양 깃발)-Ensigns from the Ching Dynasty (China)
2.Tegu ensign(태극깃발)-Ching Dynasty Naval and Civil Ensigns chart (1881)
위 자료를 보면 팔괘문양깃발과 태극문양깃발은 Ching Dynasty (China) 즉 청(중국)왕조 깃발이라고 하고 있다. 그런데 조선의 깃발, 대한민국의 깃발로 남았다.
이것은 조선(중국) 내에 청(왕조 또는 정부개념)이 있다는 사실을 알 수 있다.
The Dragon Flags
There are many images of the Chinese flags with the dragon made by western people who were unaware of the meaning of the number of talons on it. For the booklet of Mr. Ziggioto ("Dove l'Oriente e' rosso", supplemento alla Rivista Marittima n. 6 June 1996, A. Ziggioto) I drew up to five different versions of the dragon for the 1872 and 1890 flags, and, at the end, the two I sent were chosen. The dragon of the 1890 flag is taken from the U.S. Navy flag book, while the one for the 1872 flag comes from Smith's book. In another version I drew, the dragon has five talons, but I must admit I don't have any source that can confirm the correct design for the 1872 dragon. By the way this flag derives from the war ensign adopted (or better that the Europeans adopted for China) in 1862 which was green with a yellow St. Andrew cross in the centre of which the dragon was placed. Sources like Rosenfeld show the dragon with four talons.
I am quite convinced that in the 1872 jack the dragon had five talons, but I lack evidence.
Mario Fabretto, 17 June 1997
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On a webpage dedicated to some Asian symbols, the Chinese dragon is presented as follows:
The dragon was the symbol of Imperial power. When not disturbed for a trivial reason, the dragon was beneficent. As the master of life-giving rain, it was the symbol of fecundity.
There were three kinds of dragons:
1) The celestial dragon was the most powerful dragon. It transmitted to the emperor the cosmic power required to reign and to promote the harmonious development of life. When the Emperor did not respect the cosmic order, the celestial dragon withdrew his cosmic power. The concept of celestial or cosmic order was introduced by the Zhu dynasty (c. 1025-256 BP) in order to justify its overthrowing of the Shang (18th century-c. 1025 BP) dynasty.
There were several variations in the representation of the celestial dragon. The model dragon has a reptilian body covered with 81 (9x9) fish scales. It has a camel's head and bears antlers. Its four tiger's legs end with falcon's claws. When the dragon was Imperial, it had five claws; it had four or three claws for lower social ranks. The vassal countries of China, Korea and Japan, were represented by a four-clawed and three-clawed dragon, respectively.
The celestial dragon is often represented with a pearl ("zhu") it holds either in its jaws or claws. The pearl symbolized power and glory.
A yellow dragon symbolized the Emperor.
2) The water dragons watched engulfed treasures. There were four such king-dragons, each reigning over one of the four seas of the four orients. A fisher throwing a fish back into the water was often rewarded by the water dragon. Several tales relate the adventures of heroes exploring engulfed palaces full of treasures.
3) The cave dragons.
The Dragon Flag (1872)
The Dragon flag (1890's)
1881년 충청도 관찰사 이종원이 제출한 태극 팔괘의 도식에 의해 비로소 국기를 정하였으나 실제로 태극기를 국기로 사용한 것은 1882년 특명전권대신 겸 수신사인 박영효 일행이 일본으로 갔을 때 태극 도형과 4괘가 그려진 태극기를 사용한 것이 처음이다.
한미조약 참관 차, 와 있던 청나라의 마건충과 김홍집과의 대화
마 : "조선의 국기는 일본기와 비슷하여 혼동을 주니 새로 제정할 필요가 있지 않겠나."
김 : "그렇다."
마 : "조선의 왕과 신하와 백성은 무엇을 입는가?"
김 : "임금은 용이 새겨진 홍포를 입고 신하는 푸른색 관복을 백성은 백색을 즐겨 입는다."
마 : "내가 생각하건데, 귀국의 국기는 백성을 상징하는 백색 바탕에 신하를 상징하는 청색 구름과 임금을 상징하는 붉은 용을 그리되, 우리 청국기의 용 발톱이 5개이니, 4개로 구별 짓는 것이 어떻겠는가?"
(청나라의 국기에 그려진 용의 발톱은 5개이며, 조선을 속국으로 보는 의미에서 4개의 발톱을 그릴 것을 권했다.) [태극기역사]
그런데 위 룡기(龍旗, The Dragon flag)들은 다 무엇인가?
위에 것은 룡 발톱이 4(1872)개이고 아래는 5(1890)개지만 4개를 조선국기라 하지않았고 한국국기라고도 하지 않았다.
이것은 엄밀하게 분석하자면 위 4개는 대조선 상징인 제왕기였고 1881년 대조선(중국)이 해체되고 난후 1882년부터 신중국이 들어서는데 그 이후 8년후 작성된 것으로 보이는 청나라 즉 신중국 국기라고 보아야 맞다.
그들은 대조선 중국기를 흉내내면서 위 자료를 뒤받침하는 것으로 발톱을 5개로 그렸다고 볼 수 있다.
이런 것은 마치 룡기(龍旗, The Dragon flag)는 청나라 국기인 것처럼 영어자료는 설명하고 있는 것이다.
1872년에 알려진 룡기(龍旗, The Dragon flag)는 그들이 설명하지 않아도 분명 태극기(1882)가 나오기 전 대조선의 제왕기 또는 국기였던 것이다.
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1500 BC flag reconstruction
Ming Dynasty
명나라 때 깃발
남아 있는 깃발은 위와 같은 깃발밖에 없다?
명나라 자체가 없었다는 말이 아닐까?
명의 깃발을 내세우려 하니 전부 대륙조선의 문양이 있어 못 내놓는 것은 아닐까?
아시아 대륙전역을 통치하던 제국에서 위 명자 깃발과 용 문양 깃발 밖에 없었다?
이것 역시 대륙조선의 문양이 있는 그 무엇이 존재하지만 들어 내 놓지 못하고 있는 것은 아닐까?
Pre-1876 flag
flag of a Beile
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Ensigns from the Ching Dynasty (China)
1. Standard of the Ching Emperor
2. Navy Admiral
5. Naval Port flag
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Ensigns from the Ching Dynasty (China)
b. Eight divinatory signs ensign
image by Eugene Ipavec, 14 October 2006
Proportions: 6:7
Source: Ching Dynasty Naval and Civil Ensigns chart (1881)
A square red ensign bearing eight divinatory signs in black.
Nozomi Kariyasu, 14 October 2006
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c. Tegu ensign
image by Eugene Ipavec, 14 October 2006
Proportions: 6:7
Source: Ching Dynasty Naval and Civil Ensigns chart (1881)
A square white ensign with red/blue ying-yang. Both b) and c) look like Korean flags.
Nozomi Kariyasu, 14 October 2006
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37. Trade Department merchant ensign
image by Eugene Ipavec, 14 October 2006
Proportions: 4:7
Source: Ching Dynasty Naval and Civil Ensigns chart (1881)
A red rectangle ensign with yellow disc in the center.
Nozomi Kariyasu, 14 October 2006
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First Class Admiral, North Squadron
Commodore of Southern Escadre
Admiral on a Sailing Ship
Admiral on a Steamship
Merchant Ensign, 1903-1912
Cigarette Card Depiction
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Minister of Navy (Haijun Dachen)
Admiral (Zheng Dutong)
Vice Admiral (Fu Dutong)
Rear Admiral (Xie Dutong)
Commodore (Tongdai)
Leader (Duizhang)
Masthead Pennant
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朝鮮修信使来朝図(조선수신사래조도)
Black Flag Army (China)
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China Republic national flag, 1912-1929
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China Republic war flag
1911 War Flag
Photograph with different depiction
Other depictions
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Liu Kung Tau / Weihaiwei 威海衛, 劉公島,
Commissioner of Liu Kung Tau
1899 to 1903
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Shanghai International Settlement
Shanghai Russian Regiment
Nanjing Puppet State-Outdoor state flag
Shanghai Puppet State (China)1937-1948
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Early Vietnamese flags]
King's Flag
Nationalist Government
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Mongol
Mongol Military Government (1936-1937)
Mongolian Federated Autonomous Government
Mongolian League
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Manchukuo (Japanese Puppet State in China)満州国, 滿洲國, 满洲国
National flag, Civil ensign and war jack
Flag of Emperor Kangte (Puyi)
Manchuria War Flag/Naval Ensign
Coast Guard
Shipping Office
Customs Vessel Ensign
Manchurian Army red cross flag
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Falun Gong (China)
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The Flag of Tibet
Tibet 1920-c. 1925
Dalai Lama Personal flag
National Democratic Party of Tibet
Tibetan Resistance -Khampa Guerillas
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china Imperial Flag
A "China (Imperial Flag)" is shown at position (5;8) of A chart of national flags , possibly one of the dragon flags discussed on our Imperial Dragon Flag page, possibly the one refered but not illustrated for the report on the 1844 flag. .
It is a yellow ~2:3 rectangular flag with blue serrated fringe and black dragon on it. The dragon design is not the typical Chinese dragon, it is in a seated position, with coiled tail and raised wings, and shows three legs (a fourth, at rear right, is implied).
António Martins-Tuválkin, 29 August 2008
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If a typical Chinese one, it should have no wings, beak ot tail barb, but should have horns and a snout, both missing.
Eugene Ipavec, 30 August 2008
Chinese Flag
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Revolutionary Army Flag 1911-1912
During the period of the revolutionary days of 1911-1912 this flag was carried by the Chinese Army. The red stood for sacrifice and the black for an iron will. The blue handles to the dumb-bells represented the Chinese people, while the eighteen heats stood for the original 18 provinces of China Proper. (page vii)
Rev. Coole was a long-time missionary in China before the 1949 Revolution and was considered the leading authority on Chinese coins for many years.
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Lay-Osborne Flotilla (China)
Lay-Osborne Flotilla Ensign
Lay-Osborne Flotilla Command Pennant
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Yang Tseu Fleet (China)
Admiral's Standard
Commodore First Class
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Background
Ensign
Jack
Pennant
Admiral rank flag
Broad Pennant
Commodore first class broad pennant
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Chinese Customs Flag
by Phil Nelson
The first Chinese Customs flag was designed by H.N. Lay when in England to purchasing cruisers for the Chinese Government, 1861-1862. Following an inquiry from UK government, it was decided that the national flag of China would be a triangular one, yellow in color with a blue dragon facing the hoist. In 1862, the Chinese government directed that this emblem be flown in the center of the green flag designed by Lay.
Soon after returning to China the flag fell into disuse until 1867 when the green and yellow flag bearing the St. Andrew's cross as designed by Lay was revived. It was replaced again in 1873 with a dragon ensign, - triangular yellow flag with a red sun (similar to the flag shown at 1872 Imperial Dragon Flag), which in turn was replaced in 1889 by a rectangular version of the dragon flag (similar to the flag at 1890 Imperial Dragon flag).
In December 1912, when the Republic of China came into existence, the green saltire returned as the emblem of Chinese Customs. During the period of 1928-1931, a central device, the Kuomingtang emblem, was added to the flag.
Source: "Dragonflags" No. 1, Canadian Flag Association
Phil Nelson, 25 November 1999
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A page titled "Customs History Resources" has links to three Circular instructions about customs flags and reproductions:
Circular No. 5 of 1867.
Flags to be used by Customs' Vessels.
INSPECTORATE GENERAL OF CUSTOMS, PEKING,
26th April, 1867
SIR,
1.- I have to instruct you to direct all the Revenue Cruizers, Boats, and Hulks, belonging to the Office over which you preside, to fly a flag similar to that appended, numbered one. The colours are to be green and yellow; the flag is to be longer than it is broad, and, at the staff, it is to be somewhat broader than at the end.
No. 1
No. 2
2.-The Boats and Hulks belonging to the Harbour Master's department, are to fly a flag similar to the drawing, numbered two: the colours also to be green and yellow, and the Chinese characters black, with the addition of a foul anchor in red at the outer end.
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Circular No. 5 of 1873.
Concerning the new Flag to be used by the Customs.
INSPECTORATE GENERAL OF CUSTOMS, PEKING,
30th April, 1873
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Inspector General of Customs, 1887
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Customs Ensign 1912-28
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